Ep. 162 Venezuelization and What Disorder Will 2026 Bring?
Hear Jason Pack in discussion with Disorder co-host Jane Kinninmont, RUSI Associate Fellow Arthur Snell, and Jonathan Eyal, Associate Director at RUSI.
Disorder held our final live podcast recording at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI), as part of our one-year partnership with the think tank. They discussed the rather disordering implications of Trump’s actions in Venezuela, whether it might embolden China and Russia to behave the same way in their 'spheres of influence', and whether Britain can continue to play a Mega Ordering convening role, as geopolitics are potentially realigning into a 'might-makes-right' and 'spheres of influences' phase.
Producer: George McDonagh
Show note links
Join Jane at her event, UNGA at 80: From 1946 to Our Future https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/unga-at-80-from-1946-to-our-future-tickets-1975305412663?aff=oddtdtcreator
And Jonathan Eyal’s great work: https://www.rusi.org/people/eyalÂ
RUSI Members' event recording
PODCAST HOST
Jason Pack
RUSI Associate Fellow; Host of the Disorder Podcast


