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This podcast creates a platform to discuss the key defence and security questions of the world’s most dynamic region: the Indo-Pacific.

The idea of the Indo-Pacific as a theatre for influence and power is gaining prominence among governments and expert communities across the world.

A number of regional and global powers with interests in the region, as well as groupings like ASEAN, have presented their own unique interpretations of the Indo-Pacific as a strategic concept that connects the Indian and Pacific Oceans along with their littoral states as an integrated arena for competition and collaboration.

Bridging the Oceans, hosted by Veerle Nouwens, will explore what the Indo-Pacific is, where its limits lie, and what the fast-evolving defence and security issues are in this dynamic part of the world.

Together with a diverse range of experts, the podcast will also analyse today’s top geopolitical questions in the Indo-Pacific, understand how these are seen within the region itself, and consider how these issues may impact countries outside the region, like the United Kingdom.

Episode 9: Turning to the Indo-Pacific: Canada Examines a Future Role

 This week, Veerle is joined by Jonathan Berkshire Miller, Director and Senior Fellow of the Indo-Pacific Programme at the MacDonald Laurier Institute in Ottawa.

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Episode 8: South Korea’s Indo-Pacific Synergy

 This week, Veerle is joined by Professor Heung-Kyu Kim, founder and Director of the US-China Policy Institute and professor in the Department of Political Science and Diplomacy at Ajou University, South Korea.

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Episode 7: Title: Trump, Biden, and the Indo-Pacific

After the inauguration of President-elect Biden, this episode both takes a retrospective look at what worked and what didn’t in the Trump Administration’s approach to the Indo-Pacific, and examines what lies ahead for US foreign policy in the region.

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Episode 6: Europe Turns to the Indo-Pacific

Germany, France, and The Netherlands have published Indo-Pacific Strategies. The United Kingdom speaks of a strategic tilt to the region. But what does all this mean in practice?

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Episode 5: Australia’s Indo-Pacific Approach: Principles and Partnerships

 This week, Veerle is joined by Professor Rory Medcalf, Head of the National Security College at the Australian National University and internationally-recognised thought leader for his work on the Indo-Pacific concept of the Asian strategic environment, as articulated in his 2020 book Contest for the Indo-Pacific (released internationally as Indo-Pacific Empire).

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Episode 4: ASEAN’s Outlook: Maintaining Centrality in the Indo-Pacific

This week, Veerle is joined by Dr. Evan Laksmana, senior researcher at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Jakarta, Indonesia, and Dr. Huong Le Thu, senior analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute’s (ASPI) Defence and Strategy Program.

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Episode 3: India’s Indo-Pacific Vision: Stabilising the Indian Ocean Region

This week, Veerle is joined by Darshana Baruah, Visiting Fellow at the Sasakawa Peace Foundation in Tokyo and non-resident scholar with the South Asia Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and Dhruva Jaishankar, Director of the US Initiative at the Observer Research Foundation in New Delhi and Non-resident Fellow at the Lowy Institute in Sydney.

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Episode 2: Japan’s Indo-Pacific Vision: What's Next After Abe?

Veerle and Ryosuke Hanada, Indo-Pacific Fellow at the Perth USAsia Centre, explore the origins of Japan’s Indo-Pacific policy, unpack its trajectory over the last few years, and look ahead at whether and how it might evolve in a post-Abe government. They also discuss Japan’s priority sub-regions and policy areas in the Indo-Pacific, which helps pinpoint areas for collaboration and cooperation with partners in Europe, including the United Kingdom. Opportunities clearly lie ahead for UK-Japan engagement in the region.

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Episode 1: Conceptualising the Indo-Pacific

In this first episode, Veerle is joined by Dr. Neil Melvin, Director of RUSI’s International Security Studies department and Aaditya Dave, Research Analyst in the Navigating the Indo-Pacific Programme of the ISS department. Together, they explore the Indo-Pacific concept and region, why the concept of the Indo-Pacific is catching on, what some of the key defence and security questions in the region will be, and what this means for UK foreign and security policy as it undergoes its Integrated Review process.

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Podcast trailer

In this trailer, we explore some of the key questions we’ll be asking in the flagship podcast of the Navigating the Indo-Pacific programme of RUSI's International Security Studies department.

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Show produced by: Tom Ascott

Episodes will be published bi-weekly and are part of our Navigating the Indo-Pacific programme.

This podcast series is available on Spotify and iTunes Podcasts


Veerle Nouwens
Research Fellow
Aaditya Dave
Research Analyst