Ep. 152 How Do we Still Get People to Believe in Democracy?


For a special crossover episode with the Democracy Works podcast, Jenna Spinelle talks with Jason Pack.

They discuss the state of democracy around the world and why making America's government more like a European country might not be the solution to our current polarisation that some democracy reformers hope it will be. We also contrast the current state of play in the US and UK and speculate as to why Keir Starmer has been such a disappointment and how the UK is not able to provide a model of centre-left governance to the US in the way that Jason might have hoped.

Producer: George McDonagh


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Jason Pack

RUSI Associate Fellow; Host of the Disorder Podcast

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