Ep. 147 From Gaza Ceasefire to Post-War State Building: Part 2 with Sam Bahour


Jason is joined by Sam Bahour, a Palestinian-American entrepreneur based in Ramallah, to discuss the fallout of 7 October and two years of the Gaza War.

There is much said in this episode that Jason does not agree with but rather than constantly arguing with the guest, Jason is committed to presenting different points of view and tried to err on the side of letting Sam speak so the listener can make up their own mind, especially when contrasting the narrative with the episode with Phil Rosenberg from last week.

Sam and Jason discuss the implications of the recently announced and implemented Trump’s ‘Eternal Peace’ which is really just a Gaza ceasefire in exchange for Israeli hostage releases, the realities of life in the West Bank under Israeli occupation, the economic challenges of reconstruction of Gaza and standing up Palestinian institutions, and the role of the international community states in those state building and reconstruction efforts. Jason and Sam disagree agreeably about the role of the international community and technocratic governments in Palestine and beyond, while Bahour emphasises the need for Palestinian self-determination and leadership.

Producer: George McDonagh


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