Ep. 136 Can Big Global Government Actually Regulate AI?


Jason teams up with Andrew Keen of the 'Keen On America' Podcast to discuss Big Tech and the need for Big Government to regulate it.

Jason Pack argues that while Trump may be achieving tactical wins through short-term disruptions — from ending the Iran-Israel conflict to forcing favourable trade negotiations— this approach fundamentally undermines the strategic international coordination needed to address existential challenges like AI regulation, climate change, and systemic economic and military competition with China. Without coherent global governance structures, we could be sleepwalking into a long-term disordered world where private tech giants wield more power than governments themselves.

As we Ordered the Disorder, Jason advocates for a Missing "NATO for AI" arguing that we desperately need international coordination structures to govern AI development, data storage, and energy infrastructure. Without treaty-based cooperation among democracies, we're ceding control to either authoritarian regimes or unaccountable private companies.

Producer: George McDonagh


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Jason Pack

RUSI Associate Fellow; Host of the Disorder Podcast

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