How to rebuild a governing body in Gaza without Hamas

What's important to emphasise is that these kinds of disarmament processes we've seen in other post-conflict scenarios is that they must be presented and negotiated as part of a wider political settlement. So to speak about disarming Hamas without situating that within a wider set of incentives and sanctions against the organisation, and without a wider pathway towards Palestinian statehood in the longer term, I think that's going to be very difficult."