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Elisabeth Braw speaks with Rear Admiral Ewa Skoog Haslum, the Swedish Navy's new commander, about the challenges of defending a country with an enormous coastline, about greyzone aggression, citizens' trust in authorities, involving youth in national security and what it's like to command a submarine-hunting flotilla.

On the Cusp is a monthly podcast from the Modern Deterrence Project at RUSI. Hosted by Elisabeth Braw, each month Elisabeth interviews an innovative leader combating new national security threats.

Thanks to Willis Towers Watson. The show is produced by Tom Ascott. 

Keep up to date with the Modern Deterrence Project on the RUSI website here. 

Follow Elisabeth Braw on Twitter.

The show is also available on Spotify and iTunes Podcasts. 


Elisabeth Braw
Associate Fellow

Elisabeth Braw is a Visiting Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), where she focuses on deterrence against emerging forms... read more

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